Ibrahim Özveren
10 Numara!
- 26 Ağustos 2018
- 15.237
- 13.889
- 403
Imansizlari imana getirecek bir hareket.
Fenerbahçe'nin Yeni Teknik Direktörü Jorge Jesus Oldu
- Konuyu Başlatan Mehmet Mehmetoglu
- Başlangıç tarihi
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- Etiketler
- fenerbahçe jorge jesus teknik direktör
- 15 Aralık 2011
- 17.787
- 6.887
- 1.373
Bencede zaten çok büyük bir borç yükü var,biz bb ne 400 milyon veriyoruz bu sene onların 2 katı fln olması lazım çok büyük paralar onun haricinde deli gibi para saçıyo koç 10 milyar borçla bırakıcak bu gidişle
- 6 Eylül 2014
- 83.138
- 56.741
- 4.283
Sen hele transfer show gör ondan sonra karar ver
- 16 Haziran 2010
- 190.944
- 133.728
- 6.478
150 milyon euro para harcamis nereye birakiyor?
Hasan Çam
Ulubatlı Souness
- 4 Ağustos 2019
- 33.089
- 47.462
- 2.968
Fener’in BB ödemeleri seneye başlıyormuş. Bu sene tek şansları olabilir. Patlamaları mühim.
- 31 Ağustos 2021
- 54.013
- 39.402
- 2.228
- 20 Eylül 2009
- 17.750
- 15.849
- 2.613
Türk oyuncular bu tarz heriflerle hemen bozusur. Eski çete düzeni devam etse sorun olmazdı ama bı irfan, bı MHY kaldı. Mesut u filan sutladilar takimdan
- 23 Temmuz 2011
- 74.703
- 49.942
- 4.693
Onur Bayraktar
Parçalı Üye
- 21 Şubat 2020
- 4.325
- 3.749
- 603
aynı dili konuştuğu veletleri toplaması sıkıntı
- 1 Mayıs 2018
- 52.961
- 43.358
- 3.298
@Hayri Cund
Redditten benficacilar:
Jorge Jesus is probably still a very good coach, but handing him the transfer dossier is (and it has always been) a recipe for disaster.
he’s not, he’s finished. couldn’t keep up with the changes and got fired because of his stupidity. his problem is that he won trophies in South America, that don’t necessarily correlate to being a good manager in Europe, and he came back with an even greater ego. dumber than him was our corrupt ex president that hired him and gave him 100M budget to spend.
handing him any role whatsoever is a recipe for disaster.
Jesus always had a weird fascination with foreign players (especially Brazilians). If he gets 100% power to choose, he'll sign random Brazilians he thinks he can develop (in reality they are total flops). Over the years, he'd give chances to his favorites like Felipe Menezes (only Benfica fans will recognize this name), and he gave no time to homegrown talent like Bernardo Silva or Cancelo. Another example is Andre (Brazilian striker) in his 2nd season with Sporting.
Jesus can be great at developing players with real potential, but it works out better when the club's scouting system is finding the players. For example, Di Maria and David Luiz were already at Benfica before he joined and he did a great job developing them.
He’s a coach that likes to portray himself as intransigent and strict. he actually said last season that he doesn’t even allow a player to ask him why he doesn’t play because he knows what’s best.
This inflexibility translated to the way our team played, we were playing in a 343 formation with just 4 available CBs and when the main one - Lucas Verissimo - got injured he didn’t bet, as he should have, on Morato - a prospect from São Paulo - and decided to insist on having an old RB Andre Almeida as a CB. You may know what happened, our, already aged, defense got even more exposed with an already bad RB playing out of his position. This was a tip of the iceberg since he should have thought about it instead of signing 5 forwards - 3 of which were sold and were financial losses because they got devalued under him (I’m excluding Darwin of course).
Everton was the worst example, a player that he promised would turn into a 100M+ player and started to literally disregard the qualities that got him to be signed - started to play him on the sideline and made our LB (Grimaldo) play inside, this obviously influenced partially Everton’s form.
If you think this isn’t enough, this last season when we were battered by Porto - consequence of the things I mentioned - in the dressing room one of the players was enraged with the team’s form and even pointed one finger at Jesus. It’s worth mentioning that in that game JJ was suspended so his coaching team was at the bench, under his instructions. So the next training session he made that player train alone and what happened? Allegedly the way he addressed it was so bad that the players stood behind their teammate. This clearly shows lack of communication and it was what got him fired, we’re talking about a coach that openly says he doesn’t even wanna hear players feedback on their role and then goes to the media saying “Was I the problem?” like he didn’t came back saying “We’re going to play the triple of what we are!” and then proceeded to spend 100M on players to win literally nothing, couldn’t even qualify for the Champions League in the 2020/21 season…
these are few of the many reasons why I think he is finished and why that season with Flamengo was the only time he was actually good. Let’s not forget that, to, partially, his credit, he actually won us a few trophies but we were such in a bad state that a mid coach like he is made it look like he was some sort of mini Guardiola… then proceeded to leave for the rival, in 2016, insulted our coach at the time and proceeded to lose back to back league titles to that same coach he insulted! I could be here all day mentioning reasons on why he is overrated
Redditten benficacilar:
Jorge Jesus is probably still a very good coach, but handing him the transfer dossier is (and it has always been) a recipe for disaster.
he’s not, he’s finished. couldn’t keep up with the changes and got fired because of his stupidity. his problem is that he won trophies in South America, that don’t necessarily correlate to being a good manager in Europe, and he came back with an even greater ego. dumber than him was our corrupt ex president that hired him and gave him 100M budget to spend.
handing him any role whatsoever is a recipe for disaster.
Jesus always had a weird fascination with foreign players (especially Brazilians). If he gets 100% power to choose, he'll sign random Brazilians he thinks he can develop (in reality they are total flops). Over the years, he'd give chances to his favorites like Felipe Menezes (only Benfica fans will recognize this name), and he gave no time to homegrown talent like Bernardo Silva or Cancelo. Another example is Andre (Brazilian striker) in his 2nd season with Sporting.
Jesus can be great at developing players with real potential, but it works out better when the club's scouting system is finding the players. For example, Di Maria and David Luiz were already at Benfica before he joined and he did a great job developing them.
He’s a coach that likes to portray himself as intransigent and strict. he actually said last season that he doesn’t even allow a player to ask him why he doesn’t play because he knows what’s best.
This inflexibility translated to the way our team played, we were playing in a 343 formation with just 4 available CBs and when the main one - Lucas Verissimo - got injured he didn’t bet, as he should have, on Morato - a prospect from São Paulo - and decided to insist on having an old RB Andre Almeida as a CB. You may know what happened, our, already aged, defense got even more exposed with an already bad RB playing out of his position. This was a tip of the iceberg since he should have thought about it instead of signing 5 forwards - 3 of which were sold and were financial losses because they got devalued under him (I’m excluding Darwin of course).
Everton was the worst example, a player that he promised would turn into a 100M+ player and started to literally disregard the qualities that got him to be signed - started to play him on the sideline and made our LB (Grimaldo) play inside, this obviously influenced partially Everton’s form.
If you think this isn’t enough, this last season when we were battered by Porto - consequence of the things I mentioned - in the dressing room one of the players was enraged with the team’s form and even pointed one finger at Jesus. It’s worth mentioning that in that game JJ was suspended so his coaching team was at the bench, under his instructions. So the next training session he made that player train alone and what happened? Allegedly the way he addressed it was so bad that the players stood behind their teammate. This clearly shows lack of communication and it was what got him fired, we’re talking about a coach that openly says he doesn’t even wanna hear players feedback on their role and then goes to the media saying “Was I the problem?” like he didn’t came back saying “We’re going to play the triple of what we are!” and then proceeded to spend 100M on players to win literally nothing, couldn’t even qualify for the Champions League in the 2020/21 season…
these are few of the many reasons why I think he is finished and why that season with Flamengo was the only time he was actually good. Let’s not forget that, to, partially, his credit, he actually won us a few trophies but we were such in a bad state that a mid coach like he is made it look like he was some sort of mini Guardiola… then proceeded to leave for the rival, in 2016, insulted our coach at the time and proceeded to lose back to back league titles to that same coach he insulted! I could be here all day mentioning reasons on why he is overrated
- 10 Mart 2013
- 120.729
- 152.605
- 4.938
Burak Karaduman
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- 25 Haziran 2012
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- 5.155
- 1.408
konudaki bazı renktaşlarda
Hakan Kağan
10 Numara!
- 26 Haziran 2010
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Play off gelseydi 2. Liği de kaptıracaktı
Onat Can Sağıroğlu
10 Numara!
- 22 Kasım 2008
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Ulan değiştir o avatarı nazar edeceksin basganima
Oğuzhan Sesko
Tek Yumruk
- 11 Ağustos 2009
- 66.134
- 70.290
- 4.918
Sanane ulan! Dün seni raporlamıştım. Ceza vermediler mi?
- 20 Eylül 2009
- 17.750
- 15.849
- 2.613
İyi adama benziyor bence iş yapar. Daum etkisi görebiliriz. Ali Koç onceki yillardan ders almış görünüyor, yapacağı iki üç transfer ile yeniden feneri şampiyonluk yarışında tutabilir JJ. UEFA finali oynamış, saygın bir TD. Türkiye ligini tanıyana kadar belli bir süre geçer ama tanıdıktan sonra dominasyon kurar. Beşiktaş'ta İsmail ile bir ivme yakalar gibi. Bizde ise tecrübesiz bir Okan var. Yeni kurulan, yıldızlarla dolu bir kadroyu yönetebilir mi emin degilim(diye yazardım bu konuyu geçen sene görseydim)
- 20 Eylül 2009
- 17.750
- 15.849
- 2.613
Görmüşüm geçen sene ve bunu yazmışım. Gelişim var bende
- 1 Mayıs 2018
- 52.961
- 43.358
- 3.298